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That made complete sense. Though it wa...Cool, Matt! That made complete sense. Though it wasn't a fantastic film, Sinbad had some really cool attitude/ gesture in his movements, and his style of action was pretty character-specific (deep bow to James).<BR/>As for acting stick figures, I can see how you'd like to develop the drawings, not only for the director, but just to remind yourself of weight and mass. There are ways to get really nice performance with minimal lines, like Tony Fucile's work in the praying scene in Iron Giant. But again, he's a friggin master. Great discussion man. I'm glad you appreciate the dino updates. I'll be using my blog to develop characters more in the future (after copyright registering them, of course). So keep checking in, and keep animating, my man1Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06634354258406911180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-11010845906266187892008-03-04T20:18:00.000-08:002008-03-04T20:18:00.000-08:00Hi Matt.Great blog!!I see all the archive and i fo...Hi Matt.<BR/>Great blog!!I see all the archive and i found amazing drawings,videos and informations.<BR/>Congratulations.Alexandre Augusto Ferreirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16828501495989250272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-61834723592180784782008-03-04T17:53:00.000-08:002008-03-04T17:53:00.000-08:00Libra bear: awww man, that just makes me so happy ...Libra bear: awww man, that just makes me so happy to hear!! I love knowing that this is helping some people out there and it's not just me ranting! And congratulations for getting a job doing hand drawn animation! Your one of the privileged few! And thank you for your kind words on my daughter-- she is a real blessing to us.Matt Williameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11614896999545097875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-75989755219498595832008-03-04T17:49:00.000-08:002008-03-04T17:49:00.000-08:00Kevin: Thanks man! I'll try and figure out the who...Kevin: Thanks man! I'll try and figure out the whole "tagging thing". I'm kinda a computer retard-- that's why I draw I guess :)<BR/>Alvin: No thank you! Glad it all helped!<BR/>Austin: Thanks man, I always love going to your blog and seeing great drawings and cool science/dinosaur stuff ( I LOVE both of those).<BR/> How rough are my first passes? You can actually check out my first pass in the post below. Those are some great questions though! I think, for me, I can't do stick figure animation and then go straight to tie down. I just need more information in my ruffs for me to accurately tie things down, plus it's really hard to get any sort of emotion from a stick figure. Plus, as you know, that leaves a lot out and surprising your director when the shot is all tied down isn't always a good thing. So I get thing's to a place where there's enough information there to show what I am trying to say, clearly, without being too focused on all the "detaily" bits. When it comes to doing things like a character slowly turning, or handling a prop I just try and nail down what I need to in order to get the point of moment across. Like if it's a close up I am not going to ruff in any "axis" heads (character that have circles with axis' for heads) because the point of the shot will probably involve what the facial expression is doing. <BR/> Wow, great question! "Is it more important to capture the gesture, or to plan the action?"<BR/> I'd say they are both important but plan the gesture's first and action second. It's sort of a double edged sword because unless you move into your gestures (the action) the right way your poses won't have the feeling you intended. If it's purely a shot of a character running through frame and not stopping to hold for a gesture, I still think of those shot's as having gestures. The gesture, to me, becomes how they run or hold themselves in the action, their posture and what not. I hate it when people say demeaningly "oh, well that's just an action shot". I think action shot's have a lot of potential for acting to them! But yeah, I do also think it's really important to plan out the action as well. But I try to think of it in the framework of gestures if at all possible. <BR/> That answer feels sorta convoluted, does that make sense?Matt Williameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11614896999545097875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-16090342625164035032008-03-04T17:27:00.000-08:002008-03-04T17:27:00.000-08:00Hey Matt, havent commented on your Blog in a while...Hey Matt, havent commented on your Blog in a while. If you recall you did a a post a while ago regarding far apart inbetweens, and how to bring them closer together with tape, and paying attention to peg holes, paper blah blah. I remember saying i didnt get it. I just started a job as an inbetweener, and now I get it, its such a great tip. Works like a charm. Just wanted to say thanks man. You saved me a lot of trouble. Just seen your baby by the way, congrats man, she's lovely.....libra bearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02294357805655617352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-24449688239323304332008-03-03T19:49:00.000-08:002008-03-03T19:49:00.000-08:00Cool thumbnails, I don't do that nearly enough. Ho...Cool thumbnails, I don't do that nearly enough. How rough is your first pass, if the character has complex movements like coming at the character, or turning, or handling props? Is it more important to capture the gesture, or to plan the action?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06634354258406911180noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-14554202299212592692008-02-27T10:10:00.000-08:002008-02-27T10:10:00.000-08:00thanks matt! i didn't expect such a detailed expla...thanks matt! i didn't expect such a detailed explanation but i really appreciate it. hopefully i'll be able to apply what you've said to a scene i'm working on. thanks again for the help!Alvin Aquinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02413498360121012712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-4442627136611453882008-02-26T16:48:00.000-08:002008-02-26T16:48:00.000-08:00Hey Matt, great post. I'd love to check out some ...Hey Matt, great post. I'd love to check out some of your earlier tutorial posts. Maybe you could tag them in some way so they'd be easy to find.Kevin Kochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14678528568112279975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-67201860412571936882008-02-26T12:05:00.000-08:002008-02-26T12:05:00.000-08:00Cameron: Your very welcome!Biv: Great man, I hope ...Cameron: Your very welcome!<BR/>Biv: Great man, I hope you find it helpful!<BR/>Alvin: That's a great question! The answer is no, I do not necessarily plan differently than I would in the sense that I still find poses to work with. The difference is (say in the case of a close up) you don't necessarily have a gesture to work with so you are relying more on the angle of the head, expressions, blinks, eye darts, to get your acting across. In the case of a close up I will thumbnail very general expressions and head angles. I will not thumbnail every single blink/eye dart. it's kinda like I said earlier, I like leaving room for spontaneous thinking but I still need a road map of clear poses. HOW I work into those poses, and WHAT I do in those poses to keep them alive is what I leave to impetuous thinking. So that alsoe kinda answer your second thought about having difficulty animating something that's not broad. It's the things you do within that pose that keep it alive. But all WITHIN the pose... the temptation is to add more poses so it doesn't die, but the irony is that more poses make it feel less concentrated a statement and less alive. <BR/> As far as a design with a character that has minimal overlap, you don't need overlap to keep things interesting. It can help, but it can also be really distracting when it's not tastefully done. You can always tell a shot when an animator was bored because there's a lot of "fluff". Basically a lot of things that don't need to be there and are distracting. As I said earlier, your poses should be entertaining enough on there own. How you get into them and what you do in them is what makes them shine brighter! Thanks for the great questions man!<BR/>Vince: Yet another good question. Yeah, it is slightly a personal thing as to how much someone thumbnails there shots out. It's something that you develope as you learn the most comfortable way for you to animate. I was just suggest getting everything you personally need to have to be prepared to animate your shot. Me, I really only want to have my main poses planned because I hate stifling the process with over-thinking and deleting room for spontaneousness. Other really want to know exactly ever little detail of what's going to happen where and when. <BR/> So experiment and find what exactly it is you need to be prepared to animate your shot. Hope that helps!<BR/><BR/> Thanks again everyone for the wonderful comments, and awesome questions!Matt Williameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11614896999545097875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-22989823924250179172008-02-26T10:12:00.000-08:002008-02-26T10:12:00.000-08:00Hey Matt, I would like to echo Alvin's question ab...Hey Matt, I would like to echo Alvin's question about the difficulty in thumbnailing subtle gestures. I also struggle with knowing when enough is enough when it comes to thumbnailing. I guess it's a personal gut feeling, but this post definitely helps clear up a lot of my questions. Thanks for the good, post, looking forward to the roughing tutorial.Vincent Gormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15195092380327335606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-64972159378611947442008-02-25T20:09:00.000-08:002008-02-25T20:09:00.000-08:00Just found your blog tonight and I'm really liking...Just found your blog tonight and I'm really liking it! Very insightful stuff. Can't wait for the next post! Thanks!Frankie Stellatohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07824998687195177246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-33684178462268932792008-02-24T21:35:00.000-08:002008-02-24T21:35:00.000-08:00sorry for the double post, but i have another ques...sorry for the double post, but i have another question. for a design that doesn't lend much to secondary action. i.e: short hair and tight clothes, and skinny body, how do you suggest i keep interest from pose to pose? or do the poses have to be that much stronger in order to make up for it?Alvin Aquinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02413498360121012712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-44858708338719469982008-02-24T21:32:00.000-08:002008-02-24T21:32:00.000-08:00hey matt,been following your blog for a while and ...hey matt,<BR/>been following your blog for a while and it's been a great inspiration. just a question: do you change the way you do your thumbs for more subtle acting? for example, concentrate on facial expressions, hand gestures? I just find it difficult to thumbnail, let a lone animate a scene that does not involve very dynamic and pushed poses. any tips?Alvin Aquinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02413498360121012712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-28251210496396982382008-02-24T13:20:00.000-08:002008-02-24T13:20:00.000-08:00Cool man. Im definitely following this tutorial fr...Cool man. Im definitely following this tutorial from beginning to end. I really need to brush up on my 2D skills. Animation skills in general really. Lol<BR/><BR/>-BivChris Bivinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06589181246525809011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-56630966127443224142008-02-24T09:20:00.000-08:002008-02-24T09:20:00.000-08:00Thanks Matt... makes perfect sense.Thanks Matt... makes perfect sense.Cameron Fieldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15240744907010870127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-53717156558877015942008-02-23T22:17:00.000-08:002008-02-23T22:17:00.000-08:00Tim: Awwww, no insult! I was hoping for a good one...Tim: Awwww, no insult! I was hoping for a good one :) I am so glad you find these useful, that is encouraging!<BR/>Derek, Anthony, and Joel: Thanks for saying that man!<BR/>2ames:Thank you! I hope these are equally helpful!<BR/>Cameron: That's a great question! I basically use thumbnailing so that I can nail down what the storytelling pose is exactly. I don't necessarily commit to every little thing about them (arms placement, expression, etc.). Sometimes as I animate things happen spontaneously that make my shot better. Things like cool breakdowns that I could never have planned in advance, the way the overlap will work, eye darts, etc. But i do not deviate from those poses, however all of the extra bits' all seem to evolve as I am animating. So no, I am not 100 percent rigid with my keys, but I am rigid with commiting to an acting idea.Matt Williameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11614896999545097875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-34725062726559214882008-02-22T12:04:00.000-08:002008-02-22T12:04:00.000-08:00cheers Matt - waiting for the next post...would lo...cheers Matt - waiting for the next post...<BR/><BR/>would love to know how much detail you take your story poses to in thumbnailing and how much you let the details evolve in animation also.<BR/><BR/>another thing - by working more freely between story poses, do you find you try and lock down the story poses fairly rigidly? or do you find they change and shift around a bit depending on the actions that lead in and out of them that you didnt plan 100% in planning ?Cameron Fieldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15240744907010870127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-61171614556605858512008-02-22T12:03:00.000-08:002008-02-22T12:03:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Cameron Fieldinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15240744907010870127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-48004942567950135392008-02-21T09:33:00.000-08:002008-02-21T09:33:00.000-08:00Thanks for this matt. Loved your other animation ...Thanks for this matt. Loved your other animation samples and your lessons. The last string of lessons on the bear was really great and insightful. Can't wait to take this one in too.James L. Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08636401828291472854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18200910.post-81009023763645247042008-02-20T20:34:00.000-08:002008-02-20T20:34:00.000-08:00Awsome post! I cant wait for the next one. Keep it...Awsome post! I cant wait for the next one. Keep it up.Joel Beaudethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09403208917106800978noreply@blogger.com